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		<title>By: AdamB</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdamB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just have a question i have just bought one of these off a friend and need to kno where to get parts if anyone can help please do thanx.</description>
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		<title>By: RodG.</title>
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		<dc:creator>RodG.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the AMG Nitro, marketed in Canada.  Looks like a Madass. Only sold in the 50cc version with the Sachs motor, $2200-2700 cdn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the AMG Nitro, marketed in Canada.  Looks like a Madass. Only sold in the 50cc version with the Sachs motor, $2200-2700 cdn.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE PHONE NUMBER DOESN&#039;T EVEN BELONG TO XKELETON....IT BELONGS TO A WEBSITE WWW.LATIENDADECOLOMBIA.COM WHICH IS AN ONLINE COLOMBIAN STORE....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE PHONE NUMBER DOESN&#8217;T EVEN BELONG TO XKELETON&#8230;.IT BELONGS TO A WEBSITE <a href="http://WWW.LATIENDADECOLOMBIA.COM" rel="nofollow">http://WWW.LATIENDADECOLOMBIA.COM</a> WHICH IS AN ONLINE COLOMBIAN STORE&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ScooterScoop</title>
		<link>http://www.thescooterscoop.com/2006/02/15/madass-attack-of-the-clones/comment-page-1/#comment-3003</link>
		<dc:creator>ScooterScoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t believe I&#039;m gonna let a troll lure me into responding... so I&#039;ll just respond to a couple of points:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;hahaha you are all idiots...&lt;br/&gt;what is the point of capitalism?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&#039;to bring the best product with the highest quality with the lowest cost&#039;-henry ford&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The key there is HIGHEST quality.  Most of these &quot;me too&quot; companies don&#039;t make an effort to ensure the Chinese manufacturer isn&#039;t just slapping things together.  For me High quality outweighs Low price.  I&#039;m not trying to live in a disposable Wal-World here.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;nothing is original - these guys basically took the design of a mountain bike with a motor kit addon, right?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Haha.  No.  While I can agree almost nothing is completely original (except for my electric Fazomeiter zog peeler), it is NOT just a mountain bike with an engine.  When the MadAss first came out you could not find another design exactly like it in motorbike world.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;so they included ripping off people in the motorcycle industry by using the tube as a reservoir, which is just a rip off of the off road community using tubes as air reservoirs.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Um... Lewzer.  The Xkeleton is top to bottom design copy of the MadAss.  It didn&#039;t borrow a piece from this and an idea from that... It is a cheap duplicate of the MadAss.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;...how many million of people are there in this world? stop hording the rides and be appreciative that money is being put into the genre...&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I, for one, do not appreciate it and will not reward someone simply meeting a market need with a cheap piece of crap.  They can keep it!  If I have to choose between a market full of crap or nothing, I&#039;d, to quote the great emcee Zev Love X, &quot;Rather be pimp struttin&#039; on hot black TAR!&quot;  Oh and stop stealing my ellipses.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;it either works or doesn&#039;t and stop copying my idea for breathing air!&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What?  No, they BOTH work... I just that wouldn&#039;t trust this knock-off to take me to work everyday.  The day I see a 25 year old Chinese scooter  in good shape with 25,000+ miles on it (not uncommon for a Honda or an old Vespa) is the day my attitude changes on this topic.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good day Anonymous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t believe I&#8217;m gonna let a troll lure me into responding&#8230; so I&#8217;ll just respond to a couple of points:</p>
<p>&#8220;hahaha you are all idiots&#8230;<br />what is the point of capitalism?</p>
<p>&#8216;to bring the best product with the highest quality with the lowest cost&#8217;-henry ford&#8221;</p>
<p>The key there is HIGHEST quality.  Most of these &#8220;me too&#8221; companies don&#8217;t make an effort to ensure the Chinese manufacturer isn&#8217;t just slapping things together.  For me High quality outweighs Low price.  I&#8217;m not trying to live in a disposable Wal-World here.</p>
<p>&#8220;nothing is original &#8211; these guys basically took the design of a mountain bike with a motor kit addon, right?&#8221;</p>
<p>Haha.  No.  While I can agree almost nothing is completely original (except for my electric Fazomeiter zog peeler), it is NOT just a mountain bike with an engine.  When the MadAss first came out you could not find another design exactly like it in motorbike world.</p>
<p>&#8220;so they included ripping off people in the motorcycle industry by using the tube as a reservoir, which is just a rip off of the off road community using tubes as air reservoirs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um&#8230; Lewzer.  The Xkeleton is top to bottom design copy of the MadAss.  It didn&#8217;t borrow a piece from this and an idea from that&#8230; It is a cheap duplicate of the MadAss.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;how many million of people are there in this world? stop hording the rides and be appreciative that money is being put into the genre&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I, for one, do not appreciate it and will not reward someone simply meeting a market need with a cheap piece of crap.  They can keep it!  If I have to choose between a market full of crap or nothing, I&#8217;d, to quote the great emcee Zev Love X, &#8220;Rather be pimp struttin&#8217; on hot black TAR!&#8221;  Oh and stop stealing my ellipses.  </p>
<p>&#8220;it either works or doesn&#8217;t and stop copying my idea for breathing air!&#8221;</p>
<p>What?  No, they BOTH work&#8230; I just that wouldn&#8217;t trust this knock-off to take me to work everyday.  The day I see a 25 year old Chinese scooter  in good shape with 25,000+ miles on it (not uncommon for a Honda or an old Vespa) is the day my attitude changes on this topic.</p>
<p>Good day Anonymous.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha you are all idiots...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;what is the point of capitalism?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;to bring the best product with the highest quality with the lowest cost&quot;-henry ford&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;nothing is original - these guys basically took the design of a mountain bike with a motor kit addon, right?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;so they included ripping off people in the motorcycle industry by using the tube as a reservoir, which is just a rip off of the off road community using tubes as air reservoirs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;why is there a pissing match going on here?  oh yeah that&#039;s right because these are all the same people who harvest up all the cheap mopeds and then try and sell them for 2 to 4 times their worth, and now when a company is using your marketing tactics you whine.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;oh-is there another group of would be elitist, an &quot;animal farm&quot; oligarchy, giving you a run for you &quot;johnny moped&quot; money?  how many million of people are there in this world? stop hording the rides and be appreciative that money is being put into the genre...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;what are you, the skull and mopeds?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;bo f-in ho.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;it either works or doesn&#039;t and stop copying my idea for breathing air!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahaha you are all idiots&#8230;</p>
<p>what is the point of capitalism?</p>
<p>&#8220;to bring the best product with the highest quality with the lowest cost&#8221;-henry ford</p>
<p>nothing is original &#8211; these guys basically took the design of a mountain bike with a motor kit addon, right?</p>
<p>so they included ripping off people in the motorcycle industry by using the tube as a reservoir, which is just a rip off of the off road community using tubes as air reservoirs.</p>
<p>why is there a pissing match going on here?  oh yeah that&#8217;s right because these are all the same people who harvest up all the cheap mopeds and then try and sell them for 2 to 4 times their worth, and now when a company is using your marketing tactics you whine.</p>
<p>oh-is there another group of would be elitist, an &#8220;animal farm&#8221; oligarchy, giving you a run for you &#8220;johnny moped&#8221; money?  how many million of people are there in this world? stop hording the rides and be appreciative that money is being put into the genre&#8230;</p>
<p>what are you, the skull and mopeds?</p>
<p>bo f-in ho.</p>
<p>it either works or doesn&#8217;t and stop copying my idea for breathing air!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM a real Tomberlin MadAss dealer. I can be reached by telephone, email me and I will send you directions and phone contact info. That being said... the Trickster is a mystery to me as well, I saw one on eBay last night and now the auction is gone.. pulled or just dissapeared, not ended. I agree with the theory that someone is dumping inventory from xkeleton.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyone have any further info? Thanks&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Paul&lt;br/&gt;Scooda Moto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM a real Tomberlin MadAss dealer. I can be reached by telephone, email me and I will send you directions and phone contact info. That being said&#8230; the Trickster is a mystery to me as well, I saw one on eBay last night and now the auction is gone.. pulled or just dissapeared, not ended. I agree with the theory that someone is dumping inventory from xkeleton.  </p>
<p>Anyone have any further info? Thanks</p>
<p>Paul<br />Scooda Moto</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MadAss is like the unicorn of the scooter world! &lt;br/&gt;There are sooo many dealers but when you call they don&#039;t even know that they are a dealer! &lt;br/&gt;Noone can agree on the price! &lt;br/&gt;Some smaller dealers don&#039;t even know what an MSO is! &lt;br/&gt;STOP DANGLING THE CARROT!  &lt;br/&gt;I got a kicker 5150 HARDKNOCK Chopper to go to welding school from Kelley,in N.CA. who by the way was quite the jerk to me when I called asking for my money back &amp; at that point could have offered me an MSO instead said,&lt;br/&gt;&quot;You&#039;ll never get your money back&quot; and hung up on me.  &lt;br/&gt;Can&#039;t register it ,So thats $1600 bucks out the door. &lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m an out of work student. It took me 6 months of yard sales,dog walking,mowing lawns ang tree trimming to buy a brand new bike for myself that is gathering dust in my garage. &lt;br/&gt;THANKS KELLEY FOR BEING SO COMPASSIONATE! WARNING: Buy From KICKER 5150 at your own peril. &lt;br/&gt;The Xkeleton Guys in San Diego seem a little &quot;JANKEY&quot; for lack of a better word.  &lt;br/&gt;I called someone picked up said hello &amp; hung up. I called back &amp; got the machine. &lt;br/&gt;Earth scooters has then on their site, but no phone pick-up either. &lt;br/&gt;Dealers selling bike without MSO&#039;s are subject to a $5000 fine per bike sold!&lt;br/&gt;Which means if your a so called dealer selling knock-off bikes, DON&#039;T GET CAUGHT check with the EPA if you think I&#039;m kidding.&lt;br/&gt;Plus Burning a welder is not a smart idea.&lt;br/&gt; I&#039;m blueprinting the frame as a school project before I sell it. &lt;br/&gt;A 250 4-speed is gonna fit nice. Any takers?&lt;br/&gt;If anyone has a line on a decent dealer who keeps his nose &amp; and his business clean I&#039;m in San Diego.&lt;br/&gt;(619)-302-8303 press 0 to leave message.&lt;br/&gt;Thanks, ride safe &amp; God Bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MadAss is like the unicorn of the scooter world! <br />There are sooo many dealers but when you call they don&#8217;t even know that they are a dealer! <br />Noone can agree on the price! <br />Some smaller dealers don&#8217;t even know what an MSO is! <br />STOP DANGLING THE CARROT!  <br />I got a kicker 5150 HARDKNOCK Chopper to go to welding school from Kelley,in N.CA. who by the way was quite the jerk to me when I called asking for my money back &#038; at that point could have offered me an MSO instead said,<br />&#8220;You&#8217;ll never get your money back&#8221; and hung up on me.  <br />Can&#8217;t register it ,So thats $1600 bucks out the door. <br />I&#8217;m an out of work student. It took me 6 months of yard sales,dog walking,mowing lawns ang tree trimming to buy a brand new bike for myself that is gathering dust in my garage. <br />THANKS KELLEY FOR BEING SO COMPASSIONATE! WARNING: Buy From KICKER 5150 at your own peril. <br />The Xkeleton Guys in San Diego seem a little &#8220;JANKEY&#8221; for lack of a better word.  <br />I called someone picked up said hello &#038; hung up. I called back &#038; got the machine. <br />Earth scooters has then on their site, but no phone pick-up either. <br />Dealers selling bike without MSO&#8217;s are subject to a $5000 fine per bike sold!<br />Which means if your a so called dealer selling knock-off bikes, DON&#8217;T GET CAUGHT check with the EPA if you think I&#8217;m kidding.<br />Plus Burning a welder is not a smart idea.<br /> I&#8217;m blueprinting the frame as a school project before I sell it. <br />A 250 4-speed is gonna fit nice. Any takers?<br />If anyone has a line on a decent dealer who keeps his nose &#038; and his business clean I&#8217;m in San Diego.<br />(619)-302-8303 press 0 to leave message.<br />Thanks, ride safe &#038; God Bless.</p>
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		<title>By: Buildingamadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buildingamadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike- When you did the &quot;side by side&quot;    were you comparing the sachs/tomberlin with the tricster/xkeleton??&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I want to know what bike you actually looked at...thnx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike- When you did the &#8220;side by side&#8221;    were you comparing the sachs/tomberlin with the tricster/xkeleton??</p>
<p>I want to know what bike you actually looked at&#8230;thnx</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 06:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just got one off of ebay. its JUNK, i went to urban moto in Austin tx (dealers of the Madass) and did my own side by side. the bike came with no title, broken parts, scratches, and is far less of a bike over all. It was cheap but i don&#039;t think it will last. every part that can be substituted for a cheaper version is i.e. mirrors horses paint lights all the electronics. don&#039;t buy one.&lt;br/&gt;love mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just got one off of ebay. its JUNK, i went to urban moto in Austin tx (dealers of the Madass) and did my own side by side. the bike came with no title, broken parts, scratches, and is far less of a bike over all. It was cheap but i don&#8217;t think it will last. every part that can be substituted for a cheaper version is i.e. mirrors horses paint lights all the electronics. don&#8217;t buy one.<br />love mike</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2006 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My neighbor just won one on ebay. He was outbid and they immediately gave him a second chance offer. So the seller is likely shilling. If you are going to bid on one of these, bid low.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;He turned down the 2nd chance, but another one was ending and he bid at the last second and actually won one for about 650.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My neighbor just won one on ebay. He was outbid and they immediately gave him a second chance offer. So the seller is likely shilling. If you are going to bid on one of these, bid low.</p>
<p>He turned down the 2nd chance, but another one was ending and he bid at the last second and actually won one for about 650.</p>
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