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	<title>Comments on: 2010 Scout vs. 2010 Symba&#8230; FIGHT!</title>
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		<title>By: Steve Guzman</title>
		<link>http://www.thescooterscoop.com/2010/03/05/2010-scout-vs-2010-symba-fight/comment-page-1/#comment-6309</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Guzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 05:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it?  Are they not both scooters?  Aren&#039;t they both competing in the same market?
Now, of course we haven&#039;t seen the Scout in person and &lt;em&gt;traditionally&lt;/em&gt; Chinese scooters are not nearly as substantial as rival products from Taiwan, Korea, or Japan.

In a real, head-to-head comparison I&#039;d wager that Japan&#039;s version (the EFi Cub) would be of the highest quality, followed closely by the Symba with the Scout follow in third and the corresponding MSRP of the three following suit.  

Side note:
The problem in America is that we expect to pay Chinese prices and get Japanese quality.  I&#039;ve talked to consumers about the Symba (back when I did sales for SYM) and when I told them they were about $2600 (yes, a bit more expensive than I would like) they withdrew in shock!  I asked, &quot;well, how much &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; they cost and they&#039;d say something akin to the MSRP of the Cub from 1983.  It&#039;s a tough sell sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it?  Are they not both scooters?  Aren&#8217;t they both competing in the same market?<br />
Now, of course we haven&#8217;t seen the Scout in person and <em>traditionally</em> Chinese scooters are not nearly as substantial as rival products from Taiwan, Korea, or Japan.</p>
<p>In a real, head-to-head comparison I&#8217;d wager that Japan&#8217;s version (the EFi Cub) would be of the highest quality, followed closely by the Symba with the Scout follow in third and the corresponding MSRP of the three following suit.  </p>
<p>Side note:<br />
The problem in America is that we expect to pay Chinese prices and get Japanese quality.  I&#8217;ve talked to consumers about the Symba (back when I did sales for SYM) and when I told them they were about $2600 (yes, a bit more expensive than I would like) they withdrew in shock!  I asked, &#8220;well, how much <em>should</em> they cost and they&#8217;d say something akin to the MSRP of the Cub from 1983.  It&#8217;s a tough sell sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when it comes to scooters, it seems less than sincere to compare taiwanese to chinese.  unless of course one prides themselves in misguiding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when it comes to scooters, it seems less than sincere to compare taiwanese to chinese.  unless of course one prides themselves in misguiding.</p>
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		<title>By: Norm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article has one error about the SYMba.  It has not yet passed CARB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article has one error about the SYMba.  It has not yet passed CARB.</p>
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		<title>By: michael pettibone</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael pettibone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Thanx for doing that so we don&#039;t have to wait 6 months for the information.Im a big heavy guy and think I would need a little more power than 6.2 0r 6.7 hp. The new Honda Supercub with f.i has 8.0 the Symba in Taiwan now has f.i.but don&#039;t know if it has more power.I have a Jailing 125 engine that would drop right into one of your scouts and make it a 100kph flyer-sounds like fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Thanx for doing that so we don&#8217;t have to wait 6 months for the information.Im a big heavy guy and think I would need a little more power than 6.2 0r 6.7 hp. The new Honda Supercub with f.i has 8.0 the Symba in Taiwan now has f.i.but don&#8217;t know if it has more power.I have a Jailing 125 engine that would drop right into one of your scouts and make it a 100kph flyer-sounds like fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 17:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The weather finally cleared and the race was on. First a disclaimer. The prototype scout came with a 75 main jet and ran poorly, the main jet was replace with a 80 which I believe will be stock. After two runs, same results. The Scout was a little quicker off the line, then the two bikes ran fairly even through about 1/8 mile course. Scout wins by a nose. Top speed seems about the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The weather finally cleared and the race was on. First a disclaimer. The prototype scout came with a 75 main jet and ran poorly, the main jet was replace with a 80 which I believe will be stock. After two runs, same results. The Scout was a little quicker off the line, then the two bikes ran fairly even through about 1/8 mile course. Scout wins by a nose. Top speed seems about the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Harvey Mushman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harvey Mushman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Honda and his right hand man went to Europe in the mid-50s, looking for inspiration for a new model.  They left thinking about building either a moped or a scooter.

In Europe they stumbled across the Moto Guzzi Galletto:  sheet metal construction, step thru design and rider shield like a motor scooter, but forward engine, foot shift, chain drive and large wheels like a motorcycle.  They went back home to Japan and drew up the Cub, as Mr. Honda said, &quot;a unique type of vehicle&quot;.

So is the Cub a motor scooter or motorcycle?  Gear-head Brian Wilson probably got it right in Little Honda (1964):  the Cub is &quot;a groovy little motorbike&quot;.

Harv</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Honda and his right hand man went to Europe in the mid-50s, looking for inspiration for a new model.  They left thinking about building either a moped or a scooter.</p>
<p>In Europe they stumbled across the Moto Guzzi Galletto:  sheet metal construction, step thru design and rider shield like a motor scooter, but forward engine, foot shift, chain drive and large wheels like a motorcycle.  They went back home to Japan and drew up the Cub, as Mr. Honda said, &#8220;a unique type of vehicle&#8221;.</p>
<p>So is the Cub a motor scooter or motorcycle?  Gear-head Brian Wilson probably got it right in Little Honda (1964):  the Cub is &#8220;a groovy little motorbike&#8221;.</p>
<p>Harv</p>
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		<title>By: Winged Gringo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winged Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought the Honda WAVE 100 in Mexico in 2007 for $1600 new, out the door. I have smuggled it into the Land o&#039; Libre (and out again and back in again and out... you get the picture) several times. I have 17,000k on her now and I really love it. I don&#039;t like being illegal though, even if I do have a little rebel in me! Just today I found the SCOUT and now I want one of those. I am heading up to Oregon on my World-Wide book-signing tour, and I&#039;d like to buy one there (zero sales-tax). I just hope I can work this out before they throw my  pretty posterior in the hoozgow for operating an illegal scooter! Yes, she spends a lot of time on the front bumper of my coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the Honda WAVE 100 in Mexico in 2007 for $1600 new, out the door. I have smuggled it into the Land o&#8217; Libre (and out again and back in again and out&#8230; you get the picture) several times. I have 17,000k on her now and I really love it. I don&#8217;t like being illegal though, even if I do have a little rebel in me! Just today I found the SCOUT and now I want one of those. I am heading up to Oregon on my World-Wide book-signing tour, and I&#8217;d like to buy one there (zero sales-tax). I just hope I can work this out before they throw my  pretty posterior in the hoozgow for operating an illegal scooter! Yes, she spends a lot of time on the front bumper of my coach.</p>
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		<title>By: ToddD</title>
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		<dc:creator>ToddD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is highly unlikely that the Chinese made Scout can match quality of the Taiwanese made Symba, but the Scout sure looks better!

I just can&#039;t get past how ugly the headlight/handlebars look on the Symba.
The two tone seats are pretty ugly, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is highly unlikely that the Chinese made Scout can match quality of the Taiwanese made Symba, but the Scout sure looks better!</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t get past how ugly the headlight/handlebars look on the Symba.<br />
The two tone seats are pretty ugly, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 17:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have challanged the local SYM dealer to a race. When It stops raining here I will post the results.</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support WilliamL&#039;s idea. Let&#039;s get on this drag race idea pronto.</description>
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